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Old Dec 12, 2007, 05:56 PM // 17:56   #361
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The problem is the economy, giving low levels access to high end loot will kill the economy and trade which is a big part of this game that keeps people playing. Why else farm for high end drops? to make gold, no ones going to be making any gold when eventually everyone has the best weapons and mods and allowing low levels access to this will just speed up the death of the economy. There will be nothing left for PVE other than playing through the content. The PVE endgame - looking the best and being the richest will die and there wont be anyone playing PVE. Infact without a viable economy that leads to competition in PVE theres no reason to have this game online except for a 3d chat room.
You are stupid and represent the farmers guild who abuse their jobless state to make fake money. This will have no effect on the economy because your caste will just find new ways to abuse a public video game system. Your people represent maybe a single percentage point of the total amount of players in the game. Can't prove it, but I am quite sure I am right.
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Old Dec 12, 2007, 06:05 PM // 18:05   #362
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bah I don't see why they would let that happen. those lvl 10s will get ripped appart.

Go ahead Anet! let lvl 10s into GW:EN Vs. lvl 28 monsters

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Old Dec 12, 2007, 06:59 PM // 18:59   #363
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Question: How is #1 (taking my level 10 character to GWEN to level to 20 & get max armor quickly) significantly different than #2 (taking a level 10 to Kaineng center to level to 20 and get max armor quickly)?

Answer: I can only do it in GW:EN temporarily because of this promotion. Other than that time limit, it's just a change of scenery.

EDIT: (re: Mordakai's post below) - My mistake, you're right.

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Old Dec 12, 2007, 07:00 PM // 19:00   #364
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Question: How is #1 (taking my level 10 character to GWEN to level to 20 & get max armor quickly) significantly different than #2 (taking a level 10 to Kaineng center to level to 20 and get max armor quickly)?

Answer: I can only do it in GW:EN temporarily because of this promotion. Other than that time limit, it's just a change of scenery.
Slight correction, the Trial period is temporary, the Level 10 entry into GWEN is permanent. (after all, Anet wants to encourage more people to buy GWEN , not discourage).
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Old Dec 12, 2007, 07:53 PM // 19:53   #365
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Wounder when the Droks runners are gonna start up a QQ thread about their loss of customers cause now GWEN offers easy to get max armor for tyrian toons...
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Old Dec 12, 2007, 08:02 PM // 20:02   #366
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A lot of people seem to be forgeting that max armours (and weapons) have been available by reaching Lion's Arch and switching campaigns, for quite some time.

This is not new - except for the buff, GW:EN has just been brought in line with Factions and Nightfall. Hell, if you have Factions, it's still better to go there first, because it's got more armour choices and a number of high XP, low-risk quests.
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Old Dec 12, 2007, 08:25 PM // 20:25   #367
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Wounder when the Droks runners are gonna start up a QQ thread about their loss of customers cause now GWEN offers easy to get max armor for tyrian toons...
There are still Droks runners?

I expect LA runners to still be in demand. However, no need to be run to Armor Harbor of Nightfall anymore...


Factions players don't benefit from level 10 GWEN. You can't get to Keineng Center until you're close to level 20 anyway, and they offer max armor there as well. (but, since it's easiest to level in Factions, it's not that bad)

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Old Dec 12, 2007, 08:32 PM // 20:32   #368
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The PVE endgame - looking the best and being the richest...
Hilarious comment--that's not the endgame, its the end of the game. Boredom will not sustain you long.
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Old Dec 12, 2007, 10:34 PM // 22:34   #369
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Hmm...I personally don't mind either way. I'm neutral in here. Granted all my chars are level 20 so I hardly noticed. And only one of my chars has beaten GWEN, the rest just went to put their armor in Hall of Monuments. I spend most of my time working on titles and armor and such. And now my contest. So I didn't notice, but I do agree that if low-leveled people went into what's supposed to be a high-end area, they should suffer the consequences. I have died numerous times at level 5 or so in Kaineng City while diong the quests and it's not a high-end only area. So...yeah.
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Old Dec 12, 2007, 10:59 PM // 22:59   #370
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i think it makes prophecy+gwen the perfect game. (considerin anet is sellin them together).
it adds the hero component to the prophecy campaign.
with fewer ppl playin gw nowadays is useful to make the campaign "soloable" (with heros) .

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Old Dec 12, 2007, 11:28 PM // 23:28   #371
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Eh, since it's there, might as well take advantage of it.
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Old Dec 13, 2007, 12:03 AM // 00:03   #372
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Fish: Letting level 10 players into GW:EN is bad.
Everyone else: No, its not.
Fish: Well, it is because of x,y, and z.
Everyone else: X is wrong, y is a misunderstanding, and z is not important.
Fish: Ok, so letting level 10 players into GW:EN is not bad. BUT GIVING THEM A BUFF IS!!!!!!!
Everyone else: No, its not.
God forbid a person have his view swayed!
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Old Dec 13, 2007, 12:23 AM // 00:23   #373
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You've had your view 'sywayed' enough times, we tell you level doesnt matter in this game, and your too ignorant to learn or accept that. Just stop posting now and let this thread die please, or better still request it to be locked. Im sick of it as im sure everyone else is. You've asked and had all of your questions answered and have been kicked back into noob island enough times.

Any one that posts another message here is a rotten egg.
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Old Dec 13, 2007, 01:11 AM // 01:11   #374
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God forbid a person have his view swayed!
That's not important.
Jk, but yeah, there's quite a bit of fallacy in this thread overall.

I don't have a problem with this change, though, because it got me to play on my lv15 Drunkard Warrior that's over a year old. He's lv18 now. I'd already played through all the campaigns a bit so I really didn't want to do them again, whereas I've only gone through GWEN with a Dervish. So it was a welcome change on my end.
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Old Dec 13, 2007, 01:19 AM // 01:19   #375
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Why not?
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Old Dec 13, 2007, 01:20 AM // 01:20   #376
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Level 10's in Gwen does not affect the economy.
You can get to level 20 in 2-4 hours.
If they are level 10 its 1-3 hours.
Giving them an extra 3 hours doesn't kill the blasted economy, because they still have to PROGRESS through GW:EN to get to your damn high end loot, in which case they will be level 20 by then ANYWAYS.

Thats like saying because I can get a ferry at level freaking 2 from Kamadan to Kaining Centre Im ruining the economy because I got there freaking 1 hour before a normal factions would of.
My level 2 still needs to progress through the game to farm anything truly.
In which case I will then be level 20 by the time I'm at the stage of High-end loot.
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Old Dec 13, 2007, 06:56 AM // 06:56   #378
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[QUOTE=Ninian_Grace]bah I don't see why they would let that happen. those lvl 10s will get ripped appart.

Go ahead Anet! let lvl 10s into GW:EN Vs. lvl 28 monsters

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um not quite.
A lvl 10 can easily modify a 55 - 20hp farmin build and power lvl with ease.

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God forbid a person have his view swayed!
Dont wry about it dude. Only the little ones who cant be stuffed learning the game will be tearing through the bs anyway. You're only option is just to sit back in an area where there's nothin but lvl 20s and go ahhh much better. =)

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Old Dec 13, 2007, 07:04 AM // 07:04   #379
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Dont wry about it dude. Only the little ones who cant be stuffed learning the game will be tearing through the bs anyway. You're only option is just to sit back in an area where there's nothin but lvl 20s and go ahhh much better. =)
99% of the people H/h anyway,And so will the lvl 10's with easy available heroes.
So no need to get defensive against the lvl 10's who probably know more about the game than you.
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You've had your view 'sywayed' enough times, we tell you level doesnt matter in this game, and your too ignorant to learn or accept that. Just stop posting now and let this thread die please, or better still request it to be locked. Im sick of it as im sure everyone else is. You've asked and had all of your questions answered and have been kicked back into noob island enough times.

Any one that posts another message here is a rotten egg.
Unsubcribe from the thread and dont post replies or read it then. Im not closing the thread because "your" sick of it. If a mod chooses to do so, then fine.

I love how you have some all seeing and knowing eye that knows for a fact "everyone" is sick of this thread!
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